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                                            R&R TEAM RECOMMENDED VENDORS

(NORTHERN VIRGINIA)

PART 2: VENDORS LIST "L THROUGH Z":

DISCLAIMER

The attached represents a list of vendors that have previously assisted our clients and our clients indicated satisfaction with these vendors' services. Any users of this list should be aware that The R&R Team has no formal business relationship with any of these vendors. Specifically, The R&R Team does not realize any financial gains or otherwise benefit from use of any vendor on this list. The R&R Team has been maintaining this list for 14+ years simply and strictly as a service for our clients. Also, The R&R Team does not make any representations or provide any warranties on the specific performance of these vendors. Each user of this list is encouraged and may wish to further satisfy herself or himself that the listed vendors are capable and worthy of performing required tasks to the expectations of that user. In turn, The R&R Team is to be held harmless for any deficiencies in services provided by vendors cited on the attached list.  

(Those vendors with an asterisk (*) that are also BOLDED indicate preferred vendors recurringly used by The R&R Team and/or our clients)

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LANDSCAPING/LAWN CARE/PONDS:

  • ***NOTE: YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE R&R TEAM AT 703-421-1433 TO SEE IF THE HANDYMAN NORMALLY USED BY THE R&R TEAM IS AVAILABLE -- THIS COULD SAVE YOU MONEY.
  • *A Cut Above Professional Lawn Care, LLC (David Castleman, T: 703-444-8262, F: 703-444-9313
  • Blake Landscaping,T: (703) 777-5596
  • Clippers, T: (703) 327-4390
  • M&M Landscaping, T: 703-662-7000
  • *Meadow Farms, Rte 7/ Reston Pkwy, T: 703-759-3900
  • *Pablo Caballero T: 703-346-5020, www.builderemodeling.com (DOES SMALL JOBS TOO)
  • Premier Turf, T: (703) 754-3326
  • *Village Landscapes & Irrigation, Mike-Mowing T: 703-594-2500, Troy Ford Cel: 571-436-9525

LAWN IRRIGATION SYSTEMS/PONDS:

LEGAL QUESTIONS/ REAL ESTATE:

  • *Real Estate Contractual Questions (Legal Advice): RGS Settlement Hotline, T: 703-660-5150
  • *Key Title, John Pitrelli, T: 703-803-8600

MASONRY:

  • *Arturo Guevara, stone mason/concrete expert, Cel: 703-851-7025 or 703-509-5402
  • W.N.E. Masonry, Inc., P.O. Box 777, Manassas, VA 20113, T: 703-335-2369, F: 703-392-6225

MOLD/MILDEW:

  • *Acquired Home Services/MoldAid, Rusty Spearman, T: (703) 754-3766, Cel: 240-832-5900

MORTGAGE LENDERS (See our separate list of Mortgage Lenders at  http://www.therandrteam.com/32.php)

MOVING:

  • *Able Moving & Storage, T: 703-330-3772
  • *Campbell, T: 703-435-2242
  • *Hilldrup Movers (Ben)(United): T: 1-800-476-6683/ 703-385-4511
  • *JK Moving & Storage, Eric Vislay, T: 703-260-4282, Cel: 703-926-3874, Pager: 240-361-6683, Fax: 703-738-7313
  • *Smoother Movers (United): 703-435-2093
  • *Town & Country (Lynda): 703-560-8600

NEGOTIATOR -- LOAN MODIFICATIONS/SHORT SALE ASSISTANCE:

  • *SGH, LLC, Lucio Ojeda, 101 E. Holly Avenue, Suite # 12, Sterling, VA 20164, T: 703-444-3380 (If needed, R&R Team will list and sell the property -- SGH will complete all negotiations with lenders on loan modifications or short sales)
  • EKKO Title Vienna - 410 Pine Street, Suite 220, Vienna, Virginia 22180, T: 703-537-0800, F: 888-448-3556, Office Manager: Todd Condron, Vienna@EKKOTitle.com

PAINTING:

  • ***NOTE: YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE R&R TEAM AT 703-421-1433 TO SEE IF THE HANDYMAN NORMALLY USED BY THE R&R TEAM IS AVAILABLE -- THIS COULD SAVE YOU MONEY.
  • ALCO Exterior & Interior, T: (703) 255-2962
  • Bismark Lopez, house painting, T: 703-898-3777
  • *David Catacora. His numbers are: 703-321-7233 and 703-618-2039
  • DGI Painting, T: 703-455-8900 or 703-754-9060
  • Garcia Painting, Inc. (Evelio), Cel: 703-582-9209, T: 703-335-1517, Fax: 703-335-1591
  • *George Gutierrez, T: 703-395-7773 (RM)
  • Gonzalo Villa, T: 703-742-8123, Pager: 703-397-1267, F: 703-464-0421
  • *J. C. Painting & Drywall, Jose. L. Taica, Cel: 703-309-7096, T: 703-335-6709
  • John H. Miller, T: (703) 777-4517
  • Leesburg Paint (Ask for Carl), T: (703) 771-2612
  • *Luis Pardo, Cel: 703-855-2929
  • *M&C Painting Co., Cesar & Michael Villacorte, 703-568-9645, cesarvta@hotmail.com, www.mcpaintings.com
  • Paint Works Services Co., T: (703) 406-8626
  • *Site Job Painting, Drywall/ Mouldings/ Painting (Ender Najarro), T: (703) 786-3968
  • The Handyman Can, LLC, Will Grant, Cel: 703-281-4185, (interior/exterior painting, carpentry, kitchen and bath remodeling and general repairs) (Schedules 3 weeks in advance normally) (Licensed/Insured/Angie's List)
  • Zampiello Painting, T: (703) 263-1000

PAVING/MASONRY:

  • *Arturo Guevara, a stone mason/ concrete expert, Cel: 703-851-7025 or 703-509-5402, H: 703-670-8982 (no paving/ concrete and brick driveways-walkways)
  • Brothers Paving; T: (703) 714-1982
  • Dominion Paving, T: (703) 728-3312
  • Driveway Impressions, T: 703-464-8551
  • Falls Church Paving Company, T: 703-534-2258
  • Lyons Paving, T: (703) 759-2171
  • Mount Vernon Paving, T: (703) 499-9555
  • Perfect Pavements, T: 540-882-9929
  • Professional Striping, T: (703) 644-1112

PATIO REPAIRS:

  • *Arturo Guevara, stone mason/concrete expert, Cel: 703-851-7025 or 703-509-5402

PLUMBING:

  • ***NOTE: YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE R&R TEAM AT 703-421-1433 TO SEE IF THE HANDYMAN NORMALLY USED BY THE R&R TEAM IS AVAILABLE -- THIS COULD SAVE YOU MONEY
  • Bowman's, T: (703) 435-5512
  • Dinsmore, T: (703) 435-1341
  • *Luis Prado, Cel: 703-855-2929
  • Monroe's Plumbing, T: (703) 723-1179, T: (703) 723-1590
  • Paul Southwick Plumbing, T: (703) 612-1322
  • *Plumbing Express (Ask for Johnny Anderson), T: 703-461-0350
  • *Raul Mill, Cel: 571-577-2085, Tel: 703-430-0006
  • Robco Plumbing, Inc., T: 703-444-8855
  • Wacker, T: (703) 450-5565
  • *William F. Galenski (Billy), Cel: 571-275-7356

POOLS/SPAS

  • *McLean Pool & Spas (also hot tubs), Elias, T: 703-759-3456/ 703-448-7665
  • *Patriot Pool & Spa, Dave Bolden (pools, hot tubs, spas, steam rooms, etc. -- repairs), T: 540-338-5886
  • Specialty Spa Service (Rob), T: 703-321-7380, Email: specialtyspa@gmail.com
  • *Swim Gem: Kirk or Cliff Wicker, Leesburg, Tel: 703-777-7703, email: swimgeminc@verizon.net 

PORCELAIN REPAIR (RE-GLAZING)

  • ***NOTE: YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE R&R TEAM AT 703-421-1433 TO SEE IF THE HANDYMAN NORMALLY USED BY THE R&R TEAM IS AVAILABLE -- THIS COULD SAVE YOU MONEY.
  • *National Tub & Tile, Rick Hugill, T: 703-327-4799, email: service@nationaltubandtile.com

POWER WASHING

  • ***NOTE: YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE R&R TEAM AT 703-421-1433 TO SEE IF THE HANDYMAN NORMALLY USED BY THE R&R TEAM IS AVAILABLE -- THIS COULD SAVE YOU MONEY.
  • *Deck Shield, T: 703-934-7040
  • Potomac Powerwashing (Ask for Jim Monge), T: (703) 421-7660
  • SMR Services, Inc., T: 703-299-0130
  • The Handyman Can, LLC, Will Grant, Cel: 703-281-4185, (interior/exterior painting, carpentry, kitchen and bath remodeling and general repairs) (Schedules 3 weeks in advance normally) (Licensed/Insured/Angie's List)

PRINTER REPAIRS

  • Fast Tech (Bernie) - laser printers only - T: 703-444-8862, www.fasttechonline.com
  • *GemLazer (Alan), 45929 Maries Rd, Suite 180, Dulles, VA 20166 (Repair both laser and ink-jet printers - HP authorized repair dealer, T: 703-709-7140, www.gemlaser.com

PRINTING/COPYING/POSTING/MAILING/MARKETING:

  • *Franklin's Printing, 4515 Daly Drive, Suite J, Chantilly, VA 20151, Jennifer Emerman, T: 703-818-2900/ 703-435-1448/ 800-745-8740, X10, F: 703-435-6711, jennifer@franklins.biz
  • *Frequent Flyer Express/ Sterling, T: 703-433-9245, F; 703-433-5645
  • *Metro Printing/ Reston, A.J., T: 703-620-3532
  • *Reston Bulk Mail, U. S. Postal System, T: 703-437-6525

PROPERTY MANAGEMENT (RENTALS):

  • *Castle Property Management, LLC, Joe Kurnos, 44675 Cape Court, # 110, Ashburn, VA 20147, T: 703-652-9040
  • Lamar Companies, T: 703-241-8377
  • Professional Property Manangement: T: 703-642-3010 (not rental listings)
  • *Weichert Property Management (Mary): T: 703-478-3612 (does rental listings and property management)
  • WJD Management, T: 703-385-3600

RADON TESTING/REMEDIATION:

  • *All Pro, T: 703-385-1347 (Testing Only)
  • *AART. Inc./ Burke, T: 703-425-2822 (Testing Only)
  • Radon Abatement Technologies/ Vienna, T: 703-242-8000 (Testing & Remediation)
  • *RDV Environmental, Ricky Vance, T: 540-303-7667 (Testing & Remediation), RDVEnvironmental@gmail.com ALSO DOES CERTIFIED MOLD, ASBESTOS AND LEAD-BASED PAINT SAMPLING 
  • Advanced Radon Services/ Fairfax, T: 703-280-0765 (Testing & Remediation)
  • *Environmental Testing Corp (Rick Stieff)/ Leesburg, T: 703-777-8300, Cel: 703-431-1934 (Testing Only)
  • *RTI Envirotechs/ Fairfax, T: 703-591-1111 (Testing & Remediation)

REMODELING:

  • ***NOTE: YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE R&R TEAM AT 703-421-1433 TO SEE IF THE HANDYMAN NORMALLY USED BY THE R&R TEAM IS AVAILABLE -- THIS COULD SAVE YOU MONEY.
  • Basement Finishing Specialists, T: 703-406-4406
  • *Home Maintenance, George Griebel, T: 703-437-4162, Cel: 703-628-7812
  • *HomeMax, Inc., 201 Davis Rd, Unit b, Sterling, Virginia 20164, -Wassim, T: 703-444-5540, Cel: 571-247-5788, F: 703-430-9458/ 703-444-4266 (Email: MyHomeMaxInc@yahoo.com) Do remodeling, basements, additions, siding, roofing, gutters, trim/ wrapping, stone, stucco, windows, entry/patio/storm doors
  • Honey Do Handyman (Duane), Cel: 703-989-3906, T: 703-771-8260
  • J. B. Dingman Contracting & Electrical, O/T: 703-932-0366, Field/T: 703-932-3281
  • J.V. Contracting (Mike), 571-283-2054
  • *Luis Pardo, Cel: 703-855-2929 (Expert remodeling/refinishing of kitchens, baths & basements)
  • *Northwood Construction, Inc., Bob Benedict, T: 703-481-3325
  • R&J Contractors, T: 703-444-1226
  • Steadfast Construction, T: 703-385-2525
  • The Handyman Can, LLC, Will Grant, Cel: 703-281-4185, (interior/exterior painting, carpentry, kitchen and bath remodeling and general repairs) (Schedules 3 weeks in advance normally) (Licensed/Insured/Angie's List)
  • Water Stone Kitchen & Bath, Cameron Cooke, T: 703-858-2273, Cel: 703-862-0939, Email: cameron@waterstonelitchenabdbath.com, Web: www.waterstonekitchenandbath.com

ROOFING:

  • *Andy Riley, Enterprise Contracting, (703) 392-9914
  • Capital Improvements (Ask for Ryan Clark), T: (703) 352-8600
  • *D&D Siding & Roofing, T: (703) 327-2387
  • *Don Burns (Kelly Contracting), T: 703-321-7510
  • *DryHome Roofing & Siding, Inc., T: 703-891-4663, F: 703-891-4464 (info@dryhome.com)
  • HomeMax, Inc., 201 Davis Rd, Unit b, Sterling, Virginia 20164, Wassim, T: 703-444-5540, Cel: 571-247-5788, F: 703-430-9458/ 703-444-4266 (Email: MyHomeMaxInc@yahoo.com) Do remodeling, basements, additions, siding, roofing, gutters, trim/ wrapping, stone, stucco, windows, entry/patio/storm doors
  • *Johnson Roofing, T: (703) 753-3220
  • RM Banning,T: (703) 455-9418
  • *CIL Contracting Corp, Carlos Linares-Owner, O: 703-476-5486, F: 703-340-8679, Cel: 703-930-9379, carlos.linares@cilcontracting.com
  • WGI Roofing, T: 703-593-6099 or 703-725-2922

SCHOOLS/SCHOOL DISTRICTING (See Schools elsewhere under Real Estate Resource Center of this web site)

SECURITY/SURROUND-SOUND/HOME THEATER SYSTEMS

  • *Trinity Wiring Solutions, 8610 Virginia Meadows Dr, Manassas, VA 20109, T: 703-257-9403, F: 703-257-9431

SEPTIC SYSTEM INSPECTIONS/ SEPTIC TANK PUMPING/ REPAIRS

  • *Great Falls Septic Service, Purcellville, T: 540-668-7660
  • *Stewarts Septic Service, T: 703-777-4177 or T: 540-554-9015

SETTLEMENT/CLOSING/TITLE/ESCROW COMPANIES:

  • *Key Title, 44675 Cape Court, # 110, Ashburn, VA 20147, Celeste Weinstein, T: 571-291-2455, F: 571-291-2461 (John Pitrelli at Fairfax Ofc T: 703-803-8600)

SHORT SALE ASSISTANCE/NEGOTIATOR: The R&R Team will list and sell a short sale property but only after the seller agrees to use and hires a professional negotiator such as: 

  • *SGH, LLC, Lucio Ojeda, 101 E. Holly Avenue, Suite # 12, Sterling, VA 20164, T: 703-444-3380, sghservices@gmail.com
  • EKKO Title Vienna - 410 Pine Street, Suite 220, Vienna, Virginia 22180, T: 703-537-0800, F: 888-448-3556, Office Manager: Todd Condron, Vienna@EKKOTitle.com; or another professional negotiator of seller's choice to complete all negotiations with lenders on loan modifications or short sales

SHOWERS:

  • Firebelly Renovations, LLC, Eric Medina (shower refurbishment), T: 703-585-3486
  • *Luis Pardo, Cel: 703-855-2929 (Expert remodeling/refinishing of kitchens, baths & basements)
  • *National Tub & Tile, Rick Hugill, T: 703-327-4799, Email: service@nationaltubandtile.comThe Handyman Can, LLC, Will Grant, Cel: 703-281-4185, (interior/exterior painting, carpentry, kitchen and bath remodeling and general repairs) (Schedules 3 weeks in advance normally) (Licensed/Insured/Angie's List)
  • Water Stone Kitchen & Bath, Cameron Cooke, T: 703-858-2273, Cel: 703-862-0939, Email: cameron@waterstonelitchenabdbath.com, Web: www.waterstonekitchenandbath.com

SHUTTERS:

  • The Louver Shop, T: 888-694-5707

DRIVEWAY REPAIRS:

  • Asphalt: Donohue Asphalt Paving, John, T: 571-255-9187
  • *Arturo Guevara, stone mason/concrete expert, Cel: 703-851-7025 or 703-509-5402

SIDING/GUTTERS:

  • ***NOTE: YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE R&R TEAM AT 703-421-1433 TO SEE IF THE HANDYMAN NORMALLY USED BY THE R&R TEAM IS AVAILABLE -- THIS COULD SAVE YOU MONEY.
  • *Builders' Siding, Larry McCarthy, T: 703-803-7330 (do trim wrapping also)
  • Capital Improvements (Ask for Ryan Clark), T: (703) 352-8600
  • Century Siding, T: (703) 263-1933
  • *D&D Siding & Roofing, T: (703) 327-2387
  • *DryHome Roofing & Siding, Inc., T: 703-891-4663, F: 703-891-4464 (info@dryhome.com)
  • Gagnon's Gutterworks, T: 571-426-3663
  • Gutterman Service, T: (703) 742-0835
  • *HomeMax , Inc., 201 Davis Rd, Unit b, Sterling, Virginia 20164, Wassim , T: 703-444-5540, Cel: 571-247-5788, F: 703-430-9458/ 703-444-4266 (Email: ) Do remodeling, basements, additions, siding, roofing, gutters, trim/ wrapping, stone, stucco, windows, entry/patio/storm doors
  • *Luis Prado, Cel: 703-855-2929
  • *Mid South Building Supply, Inc. (Materials only, purchase by piece vinyl siding for repairs), 7940 Woodruff Ct, Springfield, VA 22151-2107, T: 800-284-9111/ 703-321-8500
  • RM Banning, T: (703) 455-9418 SBS Siding Co., T: (703) 430-7366
  • *Thompson Creek Window Company: Montina Vital, Factory Rep, Cel: 301-653-8827, T: 301-306-5290, Email: mvital@tompsoncreek.com and Robby Doran, Sales Manager, T: 301-560-1412, Email: rdoran@thompsoncreek.com, Web:  www.thompsoncreek.com
  • Wadden Construction, T: (703) 641-0171

SIGNAGE:

  • *Creative Signs Design, Brett, 20735 Ashburn Rd, Ashburn, VA 20147, Tel: 703-729-0200

SMOKE/FIRE/MOLD REMEDIATION:

  • *Acquired Home Services/MoldAid, Rusty Spearman, T: (703) 754-3766, Cel: 240-832-5900

STAGING, HOME:

  • *Barbara Bain, Redesign Today!, T: (904) 234-2929
  • Decor Decorum, T: 703-655-4789
  • Preferred Staging, T: 703-851-2690
  • Staged Interior, T: 703-261-7026
  • Staged, Living, Wellness by Brigitta, LLC, T: 703-220-6239

STARKER EXCHANGE FACILITATORS/ESCROW COMPANIES:

  • *Key Title, Annandale Office, Rose Slotsky , T: 703-354-0561, F: 703-354-1303
  • *TIMCOR Financial Corp, David Hwa , T: 888-868-2224/ 936-273-7747

STORAGE:

  • *AAAA Self-Storage, 45143 Old Ox (Rte 606), Sterling/Dulles, Mgr: Justin, T: 703-774-3257, F: 703-707-0404

SURROUND-SOUND/ HOME THEATER/ SECURITY SYSTEMS

  • *Trinity Wiring Solutions, 8610 Virginia Meadows Dr, Manassas, VA 20109, T: 703-257-9403, F: 703-257-9431, on web

TERMITES: INSPECTION/TREATMENT/REPAIRS:

  • Inspection/ treatment: Country Termite & Pest Control, T: 540-338-7821
  • *Inspection/ treatment: PestNow (Superior Termite & Pest Control, Inc.), T: 703-404-1921
  • Termite Damage Repairs: J. B. Dingman Contracting & Electrical, O/T: 703-932-0366, Field/T: 703-932-3281
  • Termite Damage Repairs: J.V. Contracting (Mike), 571-283-2054

TRASH/ JUNK PICK-UP:

  • *123JUNK, Zach Taylor, T: 703-400-7645, C: 703-1956-1380
  • 1-800-Got-Junk, T: 1-800-468-5865
  • College Hunks Hauling, T: 1-800-586-5872
  • Rick Galliher, Fairfax, T: 703-934-4678, F: 309-935-0382
  • Dirty Deeds Junk Removal, T: 703-333-5865 (realtor discounts)

TREE REMOVAL/TRIMMING:

  • ***NOTE: YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE R&R TEAM AT 703-421-1433 TO SEE IF THE HANDYMAN NORMALLY USED BY THE R&R TEAM IS AVAILABLE -- THIS COULD SAVE YOU MONEY.
  • JL Tree Service, Inc., T: 703-574-3600
  • *Premier Tree Care, Jeff Miller, Cel: 540-316-7343 (do the spectrum of tree arboring/stump grinding, firewood, etc.) (licensed/insured/certified on HomeAdvisor)
  • *Preventive Maintenance, LLC, Marcel Girard, 4094 Majestic Lane, Suite 356, Fairfax, VA 22033, T: 703-962-7815, C: 703-868-5843, F: 703-953-1696, (licensed/ insured/ certified arborists) 

VIDEO CREATION:

WATER INTRUSION:

  • *Soil & Structure, T: 703-391-8911
  • *Luis Prado, Cel: 703-855-2929
  • *ValueDry , T: 866-328-2583

WEB SITE DEVELOPMENT/ HOSTING:

  • *Steve Spishak , Liquid Symmetry, Cel: 703-303-9687 (web site developer/ R&R Team) 

WELL INSPECTIONS/ WATER TESTING:

  • *Bell Pump & Well, Inc., T: 703-249-1395

WINDOWS/WINDOW GLASS/SCREEN REPAIR: (also, see DOOR/WINDOW REPLACEMENT above)

  • ***NOTE: YOU ARE WELCOME TO CALL THE R&R TEAM AT 703-421-1433 TO SEE IF THE HANDYMAN NORMALLY USED BY THE R&R TEAM IS AVAILABLE -- THIS COULD SAVE YOU MONEY.
  • *American Screen & Glass (Chris Jensen), Sterling, T: 703-471-4500, 703-378-4408, 703-450-5400, F: 703-471-8237 (do custom glass work also) 
  • *Blaine Window Hardware, Inc. (window replacement hardware/ sash kits (must pick-up or have mailed), 17319 Blaine Dr, Hagerstown, MD 21740 2394, T: 1-800-678-1919, X51, T: 301-797-6500, X51, F: 888-250-3960 and Silver Spring Ofc: 2410 Linden Ln, T: 301-565-4949
  • Creative Windows, Kenny, T: 703-433-0300
  • *Great American Glass, LLC, Debbie/Kenny, T: 703-481-0500 (do sash repairs also and will order kits)
  • Reston Glass, T: 703-860-2089
  • *HomeMax , Inc., 201 Davis Rd, Unit b, Sterling, Virginia 20164, Wassim , T: 703-444-5540, Cel: 571-247-5788, F: 703-430-9458/ 703-444-4266 (Do remodeling, basements, additions, siding, roofing, gutters, trim/ wrapping, stone, stucco, windows, entry/patio/storm doors)
  • R&J Tinting, T: 703-430-8468
  • *Renewal by Andersen (an Andersen Company) (window/patio & front door replacements), Tel: 1-800-595-1320, Email: Kevin.Chaikin@AndersenCorp.com, Web: www.renewalbyandersen
  • *Solar Eclipse (window glass tinting), T: 703-794-8468, F: 703-791-2112 Sterling Glass, T: 703-450-5895
  • *Thompson Creek Window Company: Montina Vital, Factory Rep, Cel: 301-653-8827, T: 301-306-5290, Email: mvital@tompsoncreek.com and Robby Doran, Sales Manager, T: 301-560-1412, Email: rdoran@thompsoncreek.com, Web: www.thompsoncreek.com

WINTERIZATION - VACANT PROPERTIES:

  • *Mike Smurder, T: 703-864-9973

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